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« on: March 19, 2014, 10:01:41 PM »

As some of you know I am planning to go to St. Louis, MO in first week of June. I will be taking my recently reacquired K5 and I will be leaving it in my friend's garage in St. Louis till next year. The bike sure needs some attention before I take it on this 1400 mile trip!

The bike - 1975 CB750K

Maintanance before the trip:

1. Clutch! New springs and plates and lubricate the cable.
2. Install center stand!
2. Oil tank is leaking from the drain plug. Needs new crush washer.
3. Rebuild the forks! Clean the rust, replace the fork oil seals, 10wt fork oil and possibly install a PVC spacer.
4. Change the horn!
5. Relocate the ignition back to its original place.
6. Neutral gear switch it doesn't work...
7. New battery. Just bought one!
8. Wire in a cable for the GPS!
9. New spark plugs.
10. New spark caps.  
11. Install exhaust baffles!
13. Adjust the valves!
14. Check/change the air filter.
15. Replace the turn signals with the older style ones. What a job that was!!!
16. Lace both wheels with stainless spokes!
17. Replace the rear tire with Bridgestone BT-45.
18. Replace the front tire with Michelin Pilot Activ.
19. Rebuild the caliper!
20. Replace the brake lines with a one piece stainless steel one!
21. Change the chain and the sprockets!
22. Install sheep skin under the seat cover!
23. Upgrade the fuse box to accept blade type fuses!
24. Grease the stem bearings!
25. Update the headlight to one that accepts H4 bulbs!
26. Go over the carbs.


The route - Day by Day!


Day 1: - 150 miles, about 4:00 hours. I would be leaving right after work. Thank you, Ben for helping me designing this route!
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=77+Avenue+Louis+Pasteur,+Harvard+University+Longwood+Campus,+Boston,+MA+02115&daddr=Longwood+Ave+to:Perkins+St+to:Kendrick+St+to:Farm+St+to:Central+St+to:Chestnut+St+to:Hartford+Ave+N+to:42.1563678,-71.6396228+to:Sutton+St+to:Dudley+Rd+to:Mason+Rd+to:Sheldon+St+to:US-202+W%2FLitchfield+Turnpike+to:Litchfield+Rd+to:127+Esthers+Rd,+Morris,+CT&hl=en&sll=41.568197,-72.809143&sspn=0.864077,1.234589&geocode=FUQIhgId2wzD-ym_5Fh_jHnjiTFko6huTXXphw%3BFdkPhgId5_LC-w%3BFQrFhQIdDtTC-w%3BFUhehQId_UfB-w%3BFcWLhAIdjAfA-w%3BFWvvgwIdkja--w%3BFTMChAIdDdS8-w%3BFfx2gwIdryi7-w%3BFahCgwId4t-6-ykVV3Q1kg3kiTE3mDLBleoF6g%3BFbs3gwIdpZK6-w%3BFftiggId4Qu3-w%3BFR6KgQIdutG2-w%3BFe6PgAIdCeKq-w%3BFfNKfgIdSsql-w%3BFdRafQIdcgul-w%3BFRw-fAIdSCij-ykRzlbnV5HniTEx7DuCBZzBnA&oq=127+Esthers+Rd&mra=ls&t=m&z=9

Day 2: - 285 miles, about 7:30 hours + a rather long stop in Centralia, PA. Andy, thanks for the tip on Route 209!
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=127+Esthers+Rd,+Morris,+CT+06763&daddr=NY-55+W%2FUS-44+E%2FMain+St+to:NY-284+S+to:Centralia,+PA+to:717+Haldeman+Blvd,+New+Cumberland,+PA&hl=en&ll=40.33817,-74.937744&spn=3.341169,4.938354&sll=40.703546,-74.789429&sspn=1.661554,2.469177&geocode=FRw-fAIdSCij-ykRzlbnV5HniTEx7DuCBZzBnA%3BFbsffAId6UCU-ynVDQ_wKSHdiTH1I_v6NgugoQ%3BFfaNdwIdVpSP-w%3BFZ6fbgId6CJz-ynPxJT-vozFiTHDbnh_TuZ7Dw%3BFZ3tZQIdx8Vq-yktd3A6ucHIiTHP6f8VuTa4Yg&gl=us&dirflg=ht&mra=mrv&t=m&z=8

Day 3: - 545 miles, about 10:40 hours. Going to visit Fallingwater - designed by Frank Lloyd Wright
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=717+Haldeman+Boulevard,+New+Cumberland,+PA+17070&daddr=US-50+W%2FNorthwestern+Pike+to:US-50+W%2FGeorge+Washington+Hwy+to:OH-32+W%2FJames+A.+Rhodes+Appalachian+Hwy+to:409+Emma+Street,+Covington,+KY+41011&hl=en&sll=38.736946,-83.759766&sspn=7.204931,9.876709&geocode=FZ3tZQIdx8Vq-yktd3A6ucHIiTHP6f8VuTa4Yg%3BFRVfVwIdvD9U-w%3BFRX5VwId3vNB-w%3BFcJIVgIdwhoZ-w%3BFR9SVAIdfVv2-ikzeWnLM7FBiDGsU862CNu5Cg&gl=us&mra=ls&t=m&z=7


Day 4: - 400 miles, about 9:00 hours. There would be a long lunch stop in Louisville, as I will be visiting a friend there.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=409+Emma+Street,+Covington,+KY+41011&daddr=IN-56+W%2FIN-56+Scenic+W%2FOhio+River+Scenic+Byway+to:US-42+W%2FW+U.S.+Hwy+42+to:7418+Falls+Ridge+Ct,+Louisville,+KY+to:39+Godwin+Lane,+St.+Louis+MO+63124&hl=en&ll=38.091337,-85.550537&spn=3.635532,4.938354&sll=38.972222,-84.892731&sspn=0.448952,0.617294&geocode=FR9SVAIdfVv2-ikzeWnLM7FBiDGsU862CNu5Cg%3BFZG4UgIdgU7x-g%3BFfAQSwIdawDp-g%3BFdd3SAIdPaPl-ilvKF8M7nVpiDF2jqc2SlRo0w%3BFYiFTQIdJRWd-ik5tPRGXMvYhzHcY48JB5lsmA&gl=us&dirflg=h&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=11&t=m&z=8
Cheers,
Peter
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 06:54:03 AM »

Its going to be a great trip no matter what happens Wink. I have modified your route to miss Harrisburg, PA - why go there? and Cincannati - same question Smiley. This makes the route into Louisville much more rural and you`ll enjoy the country roads of Kentucky Smiley

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=77+Avenue+Louis+Pasteur,+Harvard+University+Longwood+Campus,+Boston,+MA+02115&daddr=Longwood+Ave+to:Perkins+St+to:Kendrick+St+to:Farm+St+to:Central+St+to:Chestnut+St+to:Hartford+Ave+N+to:42.1563678,-71.6396228+to:Sutton+St+to:Dudley+Rd+to:Mason+Rd+to:Sheldon+St+to:US-202+W%2FLitchfield+Turnpike+to:Litchfield+Rd+to:127+Esthers+Rd,+Morris,+CT+to:Centralia,+PA+to:PA-274+W+to:39.4933035,-78.4211075+to:39.2747271,-80.978841+to:39.2980092,-80.5849527+to:OH-7+S+to:KY-1054+N+to:Louisville,+KY+to:St.+Louis+MO+63124&hl=en&ll=39.588757,-79.101562&spn=4.723875,10.821533&sll=38.655488,-85.061646&sspn=2.393589,5.410767&geocode=FUQIhgId2wzD-ym_5Fh_jHnjiTFko6huTXXphw%3BFdkPhgId5_LC-w%3BFQrFhQIdDtTC-w%3BFUhehQId_UfB-w%3BFcWLhAIdjAfA-w%3BFWvvgwIdkja--w%3BFTMChAIdDdS8-w%3BFfx2gwIdryi7-w%3BFahCgwId4t-6-ykVV3Q1kg3kiTE3mDLBleoF6g%3BFbs3gwIdpZK6-w%3BFftiggId4Qu3-w%3BFR6KgQIdutG2-w%3BFe6PgAIdCeKq-w%3BFfNKfgIdSsql-w%3BFdRafQIdcgul-w%3BFRw-fAIdSCij-ykRzlbnV5HniTEx7DuCBZzBnA%3BFZ6fbgId6CJz-ynPxJT-vozFiTHDbnh_TuZ7Dw%3BFRWlZwIdAZph-w%3BFbeeWgIdjWNT-yn1WGhZJXHKiTEHrdLX13ev4w%3BFedIVwIdZ1ws-ymfC2p8b41JiDHp6LAx6PZhuQ%3BFdmjVwIdCF8y-ykfRlxKsxdKiDHsrqx35Htkag%3BFao0VAIdBM4d-w%3BFcJgTQIdVKz3-g%3BFXmwRwIdCG7j-ikR1VuzGgtpiDEy_XEgKLTT1A%3BFc2gTQIdg9ic-in5XHLWoMzYhzFngBfZBhj4Tg&dirflg=ht&mra=dme&mrsp=22&sz=8&via=18,19,20&t=m&z=7

Also keep in mind Rt 209 is a busy 4-lane highway and is fast. We took this way last year to North Carolina -hilly enough road to make it interesting but its no country road.

1. Clutch! Definitely springs, possibly plates and more...well this is easy enough and I have all the OEM parts as you know if you want to go that route. On a trip like this with probable traffic around cities a good clutch is essential!!

2. Install center stand! - super easy getting the spring on with the long screwdriver technique

2. Oil tank crush washer it's leaking. I bought a new one today. - I have several if you need more
3. Fork oil seals and obviously new oil - New progressive springs wouldnt hurt either  Cool
4. Change the horn! - get the one I have and mentioned in some other thread - 103db! and no relay needed.
5. Relocate the ignition back to its original place - great idea!
6. Neutral gear switch it doesn't work - good luck fixing this!  Cool probably the wire under the sidestand is frayed or loose connection or the sensor has gone
7. New battery. Just bought one! - MotoBatts are the best!
8. Wire in a cable for the GPS - Anders makes good mounts for this.
9. New spark plugs, possibly. - but of course!
10. Go over the carbs! I will try to run some Seafoam, but likely I will have to take them out and clean them well.  -they should be removed for sure and cleaned!
11. Install exhaust baffles! - finally!
13. Adjust the valves - 5 min job
14. Check/change the air filter - cant go wrong with a K&N - worth the extra upfront $ - mine is 10 yrs old Wink
15. Potentially replace the front tire. I suppose it would be just fine, but if funds permit, I will replace it. It is at least six years old, possibly older. I have decided on Michelin Pilot Activ. - def replace it! Think of riding in the rain....

Is the chain new? Is it an o-ring chain - hope so or you are going to be doing a lot of chain maintenance at the end of the day - dont forget to take chain lube with you.

How long is the trip? 1400 miles can be done comfortably in 3 long days if needed.

Let me know if I can help! Not sure how many parts I have as havent been in the garage this winter Sad but ask away Wink

cheers
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 10:34:54 AM »

Andy, thank you!



The route!

Thanks for the tip about 209. I have modified the route slightly, but I am still going to use 209 for a bit. There is just no other option, without loosing too much time. I am going to ride 3.5 days and the Harrisburg and Cincinnati are just the overnight stops. Actually, I have never been to Cincinnati and I kind of like to see it and while there, I would cross the river and go to Kentucky, which is one of the remaining 12 states I haven't been to Grin.

Here is the route Day by Day.

Day 1:. About 4:00 hours. I would be leaving right after work. Thank you, Ben for helping me designing this route!
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=77+Avenue+Louis+Pasteur,+Harvard+University+Longwood+Campus,+Boston,+MA+02115&daddr=Longwood+Ave+to:Perkins+St+to:Kendrick+St+to:Farm+St+to:Central+St+to:Chestnut+St+to:Hartford+Ave+N+to:42.1563678,-71.6396228+to:Sutton+St+to:Dudley+Rd+to:Mason+Rd+to:Sheldon+St+to:US-202+W%2FLitchfield+Turnpike+to:Litchfield+Rd+to:127+Esthers+Rd,+Morris,+CT&hl=en&sll=41.568197,-72.809143&sspn=0.864077,1.234589&geocode=FUQIhgId2wzD-ym_5Fh_jHnjiTFko6huTXXphw%3BFdkPhgId5_LC-w%3BFQrFhQIdDtTC-w%3BFUhehQId_UfB-w%3BFcWLhAIdjAfA-w%3BFWvvgwIdkja--w%3BFTMChAIdDdS8-w%3BFfx2gwIdryi7-w%3BFahCgwId4t-6-ykVV3Q1kg3kiTE3mDLBleoF6g%3BFbs3gwIdpZK6-w%3BFftiggId4Qu3-w%3BFR6KgQIdutG2-w%3BFe6PgAIdCeKq-w%3BFfNKfgIdSsql-w%3BFdRafQIdcgul-w%3BFRw-fAIdSCij-ykRzlbnV5HniTEx7DuCBZzBnA&oq=127+Esthers+Rd&mra=ls&t=m&z=9

Day 2: Thank you, Andy for the tip on Route 209! About 7:30 hours, but there would be a rather long stop in Centralia, PA.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=127+Esthers+Rd,+Morris,+CT+06763&daddr=NY-55+W%2FUS-44+E%2FMain+St+to:NY-284+S+to:Centralia,+PA+to:717+Haldeman+Blvd,+New+Cumberland,+PA&hl=en&ll=40.33817,-74.937744&spn=3.341169,4.938354&sll=40.703546,-74.789429&sspn=1.661554,2.469177&geocode=FRw-fAIdSCij-ykRzlbnV5HniTEx7DuCBZzBnA%3BFbsffAId6UCU-ynVDQ_wKSHdiTH1I_v6NgugoQ%3BFfaNdwIdVpSP-w%3BFZ6fbgId6CJz-ynPxJT-vozFiTHDbnh_TuZ7Dw%3BFZ3tZQIdx8Vq-yktd3A6ucHIiTHP6f8VuTa4Yg&gl=us&dirflg=ht&mra=mrv&t=m&z=8

Day 3: About 9:30 hours.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=717+Haldeman+Boulevard,+New+Cumberland,+PA+17070&daddr=US-50+W%2FNorthwestern+Pike+to:US-50+W%2FGeorge+Washington+Hwy+to:OH-32+W%2FJames+A.+Rhodes+Appalachian+Hwy+to:409+Emma+Street,+Covington,+KY+41011&hl=en&sll=38.736946,-83.759766&sspn=7.204931,9.876709&geocode=FZ3tZQIdx8Vq-yktd3A6ucHIiTHP6f8VuTa4Yg%3BFRVfVwIdvD9U-w%3BFRX5VwId3vNB-w%3BFcJIVgIdwhoZ-w%3BFR9SVAIdfVv2-ikzeWnLM7FBiDGsU862CNu5Cg&gl=us&mra=ls&t=m&z=7

Day 4: About 9:00 hours. There would be a long lunch stop in Louisville, as I will be visiting a friend there.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=409+Emma+Street,+Covington,+KY+41011&daddr=Sunset+Dr+to:IN-62+W%2FN+State+Rte+62+to:7418+Falls+Ridge+Ct,+Louisville,+KY+to:39+Godwin+Lane,+St.+Louis+MO+63124&hl=en&sll=38.292227,-85.602379&sspn=0.113308,0.154324&geocode=FR9SVAIdfVv2-ikzeWnLM7FBiDGsU862CNu5Cg%3BFRVaUwId7gnu-g%3BFfaBUAIdAs3p-g%3BFdd3SAIdPaPl-ilvKF8M7nVpiDF2jqc2SlRo0w%3BFYiFTQIdJRWd-ik5tPRGXMvYhzHcY48JB5lsmA&gl=us&dirflg=h&mra=ls&t=m&z=7


The bike!


1. Clutch! Definitely springs, possibly plates and more...well this is easy enough and I have all the OEM parts as you know if you want to go that route. On a trip like this with probable traffic around cities a good clutch is essential!!
    I bought the springs and I want to inspect the disks, before I go ahead and spend money on something I might not need.

2. Install center stand! - super easy getting the spring on with the long screwdriver technique
    I've done it once before. Hopefully it would be easy this time also.
2. Oil tank crush washer it's leaking. I bought a new one today. - I have several if you need more
    Hopefully not. This shouldn't be an issue!
3. Fork oil seals and obviously new oil - New progressive springs wouldnt hurt either  Cool
    I agree with you, but money is an issue, so I would have to skip on that.
4. Change the horn! - get the one I have and mentioned in some other thread - 103db! and no relay needed.
    That's the one I have purchased. Thank you!
5. Relocate the ignition back to its original place - great idea!
     Smiley
6. Neutral gear switch it doesn't work - good luck fixing this!  Cool probably the wire under the sidestand is frayed or loose connection or the sensor has gone
   I hope you are wrong! But it's unlikely...
7. New battery. Just bought one! - MotoBatts are the best!
   That's what I got. Smiley
8. Wire in a cable for the GPS - Anders makes good mounts for this.
   I've got a mount. I just need to wire it to the battery.
9. New spark plugs, possibly. - but of course!
   I know, I know....
10. Go over the carbs! I will try to run some Seafoam, but likely I will have to take them out and clean them well.  -they should be removed for sure and cleaned!
   I know, I know....
11. Install exhaust baffles! - finally!
   I KNOW!
13. Adjust the valves - 5 min job
   I have never done it on these bikes. Help would be appreciated!
14. Check/change the air filter - can't go wrong with a K&N - worth the extra upfront $ - mine is 10 yrs old Wink
   I have two filters purchased already. I will go with the regular one for now. Perhaps in the future I will change it K&N.
15. Potentially replace the front tire. I suppose it would be just fine, but if funds permit, I will replace it. It is at least six years old, possibly older. I have decided on Michelin Pilot Activ. - def replace it! Think of riding in the rain....
   I know, I know... I will replace it!

Is the chain new? Is it an o-ring chain - hope so or you are going to be doing a lot of chain maintenance at the end of the day - dont forget to take chain lube with you.
   I knew this subject will come up... The chain is not an o-ring, but I don't think I will be replacing it now. I hope it could wait till next year for the next leg of my trip. Chain lube packed Wink

Speaking of packing.

Tools, spares and bike related items:

Please feel free to add to the list below!

1. Chain lube
2. Zip ties
3. Electrical tape
4. Spare tube(s)
5. Emergency cable (could be adapt to any cable)
6. Some wires
7. Fuses. I will possibly change to car blade fuses, but still, I will take spares.
8. Flash light
9. Supers glue Tongue
10. Spark plugs
11. Some Nuts and Bolts, or may be not since I have zip ties.
12. Rag(s) + medical gloves
13. Adjustable wrench
14. Wrenches #10, #12 and #14
15. Spark plug Wrench
16. Knife
17. Long nose Pliers and wire cutters
18. Two Philips and two flat head screwdrivers
19.


To be continued:



    
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 10:45:18 AM »

"6. Neutral gear switch it doesn't work - good luck fixing this!  Cool probably the wire under the sidestand is frayed or loose connection or the sensor has gone"

I don't think its that hard to replace.  If i remember correctly, its just a press in fit on the bottom of the engine that i think you can get to with it still in the frame.  You will need to drain the oil, but its just a pull out push in type of deal.  I can take pictures of the one i have pulled out if you want.  The real question is if you can buy a replacement.

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 11:05:53 AM »

Thanks for the input, Treeve! I will have to drain the oil anyhow, so I will look into it then. I will appreciate a pic, sure.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 11:20:30 AM »

I would so change the chain + front sprocket (17t)! Best $100 you will spend on your trip - no substitute for a smooth rolling chain - just ask old Peter who borrowed my K4 and promptly replaced the chain. An o-ring is essential in my opinion for this kind of trip. Bike runs smoother for it

1. Chain lube
2. Zip ties
3. Electrical tape
4. Spare tube(s)
5. Emergency cable (could be adapt to any cable)
6. Some wires
7. Fuses -change to car blade fuses will make your life so much easier. Having a blown fuse issue at the side of the road and running out of the glass tube ones as it blows again and again is no fun  Cool
8. Flash light
9. Super glue -what are you going to glue? Your fingers?
10. Spark plugs
11. Some Nuts and Bolts - never carried these
12. Rag(s) + medical gloves to prevent oily hands Smiley
13. Adjustable wrench for rear wheel
14. Wrenches #10, #12 and #14
15. Spark plug Wrench -Honda one is the best
16. Knife
17. Long nose Pliers and wire cutters
18. Two Philips and two flat head screwdrivers
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2014, 11:31:41 AM »

Thanks!

I would so change the chain + front sprocket (17t)! Best $100 you will spend on your trip - no substitute for a smooth rolling chain - just ask old Peter who borrowed my K4 and promptly replaced the chain. An o-ring is essential in my opinion for this kind of trip. Bike runs smoother for it.
Okay, I will consider it! Links to where to buy it?

1. Chain lube
2. Zip ties
3. Electrical tape
4. Spare tube(s)
5. Emergency cable (could be adapt to any cable)
6. Some wires
7. Fuses -change to car blade fuses will make your life so much easier. Having a blown fuse issue at the side of the road and running out of the glass tube ones as it blows again and again is no fun  Cool I will.
8. Flash light
9. Super glue -what are you going to glue? Your fingers? Never leave your home without super glue! Tongue
10. Spark plugs
11. Some Nuts and Bolts - never carried these Okay, may be not.
12. Rag(s) + medical gloves to prevent oily hands Smiley
13. Adjustable wrench for rear wheel Exactly
14. Wrenches #10, #12 and #14
15. Spark plug Wrench -Honda one is the best I agree.
16. Knife
17. Long nose Pliers and wire cutters
18. Two Philips and two flat head screwdrivers
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 11:35:24 AM »

I usually buy the RK 530 O-ring chain, 102 links. Search on Amazon, Bikebandit, etc for best price its been a while since I bought one. Also if you are doing a bike trip a year later then the chain will be already be done!  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 11:38:46 AM »

Hahaha, good point Smiley Thanks, I will see what I can find.

It's not if, I am definitely doing a trip next year! The question is whether I am going LA via Rt. 66, or riding back home. More on that next year Wink
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2014, 03:33:40 PM »

"6. Neutral gear switch it doesn't work - good luck fixing this!  Cool probably the wire under the sidestand is frayed or loose connection or the sensor has gone"

I don't think its that hard to replace.  If i remember correctly, its just a press in fit on the bottom of the engine that i think you can get to with it still in the frame.  You will need to drain the oil, but its just a pull out push in type of deal.  I can take pictures of the one i have pulled out if you want.  The real question is if you can buy a replacement.



From what it looks like on line, not that hard to replace. Don't bother with the picture, I saw one on the SOHC. I am hopping I can fix mine, but if not - http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-35752-300-020.html

What's wrong with yours? Why did you pull it out?

Thanks!
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2014, 04:40:15 PM »

I pulled it out so i could ultrasonically clean the cases and paint them.  Plus you have to remove it to get the gear shift drum assembly out.

If i had to guess, i would agree with andy and say your wire running from the switch to the harness is chewed up.  Its a wussy little wire that is pretty exposed down underneath the engine.  It also has a stupid little flimsy piece of metal on the end that is used to attach to the switch that is easy to break....ask me how i know this... Grin
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2014, 04:59:42 PM »

  It also has a stupid little flimsy piece of metal on the end that is used to attach to the switch that is easy to break....ask me how i know this... Grin
Now do you know that? Grin
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2014, 07:31:15 PM »

just ask old Peter who borrowed my K4 and promptly replaced the chain.


I've still got my old sledgehammer and crowbar if you need any help with that!

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2014, 09:00:18 AM »

Well, I just might need that sledgehammer! I just discovered that I would have to rebuild the caliper as well! Angry
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2014, 09:06:01 AM »

Good to find that bit early on Peter.
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